Low-carbohydrate High-fat diets: Green flags and Red flags.

Fun with flags. But first, a poem!

Atkins Antidote


Eating low carbohydrate what threat that poses

Do my friends think I’m suffering from halitosis?

I’ve got these sticks for measuring ketoacidosis

I’m taking supplements but I don’t know what the dose is

I’m trying hard to keep in a state of ketosis

I’m not sure what the right amount of weight to lose is

I’m sure I’ve put on a pound just through osmosis

Is eating this way risking osteoporosis

Are my kidneys wrestling with metabolic acidosis

My store of liver glycogen I don’t know how low is

Who knows what the glycemic load of oats is

Does anyone know if I can eat samosas?


Ian Turnbull

I do. The answer's "No!" :-D

From https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=13567&start=8925

The Green flags...

1. For a person with Insulin Resistance, an ad-libitum low-carb diet results in more weight loss than an ad-libitum high-carb diet.

See How low-carbohydrate diets result in more weight loss than high-carbohydrate diets for people with Insulin Resistance or Type 2 Diabetes , for an explanation.

2. For a person with Type 1 Diabetes Mellitus (T1DM), a lowish-carb (~100g/day), highish fat diet results in minimal disturbances to blood glucose levels and minimal bolus insulin doses.

See Diabetes: which are the safest carbohydrates? , to see which foods should comprise the ~100g/day. N.B. As ~50% of dietary proteins can be converted into glucose by gluconeogenesis, ~100g/day of slow-digesting proteins such as meats, eggs & cheeses can contribute ~50g/day of glucose towards the ~100g/day total.

3. For a person with LADA or MODY, see 2.

4. For a person with Type 2 Diabetes Mellitus (T2DM), a LCLF 600kcal/day Protein Sparing Modified Fast can normalise BG in 1 week and reverse T2DM in 8 weeks (provided there are sufficient surviving pancreatic beta-cells).

See http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3168743/
"After 1 week of restricted energy intake, fasting plasma glucose normalised in the diabetic group (from 9.2 ± 0.4 to 5.9 ± 0.4 mmol/l; p = 0.003)."

"Maximal insulin response became supranormal at 8 weeks (1.37 ± 0.27 vs controls 1.15 ± 0.18 nmol min−1 m−2)."

After 8 weeks, transition to a diet based on whole, minimally-refined animal & vegetable produce.

See also http://www.fend-lectures.org/index.php?menu=view&id=94

As Insulin Resistance is multi-factorial, ALL of the potential causes need to be addressed. Once this has been done, IR should be reversed, allowing restrictions on dietary carbohydrate intake to be lifted. See also Can supplements & exercise cure Type 2 diabetes?

The Red flags...

The low-carb diet is a temporary patch to ameliorate IR/IGT/Met Syn/T2DM, a bit like replacing a failed circuit-breaker by sticking a nail in its place, to allow the house to function while you fix the problem by buying a new circuit-breaker. Although the house functions fine with a nail in place of a circuit-breaker, you wouldn't want to spend the rest of your life without a working circuit-breaker protecting the house.

So, why do low-carbers seem to want to spend the rest of their lives using a temporary patch to ameliorate their IR/IGT/Met Syn/T2DM?

Long-term use of very-low-carb, very-high-fat diets is not recommended.

1. Cortisol level can gradually increase, resulting in increasing fasting BG level. See How eating sugar & starch can lower your insulin needs.

2. If you do too much high-intensity exercise, you may momentarily black-out, fall and hurt yourself. See "Funny turns": What they aren't and what they might be.

3. Some people seem to gradually go bat-shit crazy. See Can very-low-carb diets impair your mental faculties? Read the comments in https://www.facebook.com/TheFatEmperor/posts/1633434020253792. Do the behaviours of Ivor Cummins & Gearóid Ó Laoi seem normal to you?

4. Insulin Resistance is bad, mmm-kay? See Lifestyle-induced metabolic inflexibility and accelerated ageing syndrome: insulin resistance, friend or foe?

5. Dyseverything elseaemia isn't addressed. See Type 2 diabetes: between a rock and a hard place , Type 2 diabetes: your good signalling's gonna go bad and When the only tool in the box is a hammer.

6. Dietary deficiencies may develop. See Rigid diets & taking loadsa supplements to compensate for them.

7. High-fat diets with no energy deficit result in high postprandial TG's. Postprandial lipaemia is atherogenic. See Ultra-high-fat (~80%) diets: The good, the bad and the ugly.

There may be more but I'm knackered, so I'm Publishing!

Ultra-high-fat (~80%) diets: Fat storage, and a delicious analogy.

Fat storage:

Here's a plot of mean (±SEM) plasma insulin concentrations during an oral-glucose-tolerance test (OGTT) when preceded by either a high-fat (▪) or a high-carbohydrate (□) evening meal and during an oral-fat-tolerance test (OFTT) when also preceded by either a high-fat (•) or a high-carbohydrate (○) evening meal.

From Extended effects of evening meal carbohydrate-to-fat ratio on fasting and postprandial substrate metabolism

100g of glucose produces a large spike in insulin concentration and 40g of fat produces no significant spike in insulin concentration. According to Gary Taubes' insulin hypothesis of obesity, in the absence of a significant spike in insulin concentration, fat cannot be stored.

Here's a plot of mean (±SEM) plasma triacylglycerol concentrations during an oral-fat-tolerance test (OFTT) when preceded by either a high-fat (•) or a high-carbohydrate (○) evening meal (from the previous post).

From Extended effects of evening meal carbohydrate-to-fat ratio on fasting and postprandial substrate metabolism

Average plasma triacylglycerol concentration over 0 to 360min is ~1.3mmol/L (~116mg/dL in US units).

Plasma triacylglycerol concentration falls to baseline between 240min and 360min. OGTT's and OFTT's are performed with the subjects at rest for the duration of the test.

Referring to It's all in a day's work (as measured in Joules) , at rest the subject is burning ~1kcal/min with ~95% of it coming from fat, making a fat-burning rate of ~0.11g/min.

At a fat-burning rate of ~0.11g/min, it would take ~360min for plasma triacylglycerol to fall to baseline if the 40g of fat from the OFTT was only being burned and not being stored. As shown above, it only takes ~120min to fall to baseline. Therefore, fat from the OFTT that isn't burned is stored in ~120min in the absence of a significant insulin spike. Q.E.D.

A delicious analogy:

Here's a plot of mean (±SEM) plasma glucose concentrations during an oral-glucose-tolerance test (OGTT) when preceded by either a high-fat (▪) or a high-carbohydrate (□) evening meal and during an oral-fat-tolerance test (OFTT) when also preceded by either a high-fat (•) or a high-carbohydrate (○) evening meal (from the previous post).

From Extended effects of evening meal carbohydrate-to-fat ratio on fasting and postprandial substrate metabolism

The OGTT (100g of glucose) produces a large spike in plasma glucose concentration which lasts for ~210min before returning to baseline. Higher plasma glucose concentrations glycate more than lower plasma glucose concentrations. Average plasma glucose concentration over 0 to 360min is higher with the OGTT than with the OFTT, therefore there is more glycation damage with the OGTT than with the OFTT. Don't regularly consume 100g or more of glucose!

Here's a plot of Mean (±SEM) plasma triacylglycerol concentrations during an oral-glucose-tolerance test (OGTT) when preceded by either a high-fat (▪) or a high-carbohydrate (□) evening meal.

From Extended effects of evening meal carbohydrate-to-fat ratio on fasting and postprandial substrate metabolism

Average plasma triacylglycerol concentration over 0 to 360min is ~1.0mmol/L (~89mg/dL in US units).

Although the plasma triacylglycerol concentration after consuming a high-carbohydrate evening meal is slightly higher than after consuming a high-fat evening meal, the two plots above are essentially flat, indicating that none of the 100g of glucose consumed was turned into fat by de novo lipogenesis (DNL) within 6 hours.

As discussed in the previous post, higher plasma triacylglycerol concentrations are more atherogenic than lower plasma triacylglycerol concentrations. Average plasma triacylglycerol concentration over 0 to 360min is higher with the OFTT than with the OGTT, therefore there is more atherogenicity with the OFTT than with the OGTT.
Don't regularly consume 40g or more of fat!

An interesting study that involved humongous fat consumption was Response of body weight to a low carbohydrate, high fat diet in normal and obese subjects , which used up to 600g of fat/day. It's possible to lose weight on an ultra-high-fat diet, but average plasma triacylglycerol concentrations would have been extremely high. Fasting TG's reduce on an ultra-high-fat diet, probably due to suppression of endogenous TG synthesis by exogenous TG intake.

Ultra-high-fat (~80%) diets: The good, the bad and the ugly.

The good:

Here's a plot of mean (±SEM) plasma glucose concentrations during an oral-glucose-tolerance test (OGTT) when preceded by either a high-fat (▪) or a high-carbohydrate (□) evening meal and during an oral-fat-tolerance test (OFTT) when also preceded by either a high-fat (•) or a high-carbohydrate (○) evening meal.

From Extended effects of evening meal carbohydrate-to-fat ratio on fasting and postprandial substrate metabolism

An OGTT (100g of glucose dissolved in water) causes a large disturbance in blood glucose level for up to 2 hours. Ditto for insulin (see Fig. 2).

An OFTT (40g of fat as cream) doesn't cause a significant disturbance in blood glucose level. Ditto for blood insulin (see Fig. 2).

The bad:

Here's a plot of mean (±SEM) plasma triacylglycerol concentrations during an oral-fat-tolerance test (OFTT) when preceded by either a high-fat (•) or a high-carbohydrate (○) evening meal.

From Extended effects of evening meal carbohydrate-to-fat ratio on fasting and postprandial substrate metabolism

An OFTT (40g of fat as cream) causes a significant rise in blood triacylglycerol (a.k.a. TAG a.k.a. triglycerides a.k.a. TG's) level for up to 4 hours. Note that the effect of a preceding high-carbohydrate meal on fasting TG's is only +0.1mmol/L. Is high postprandial TG's a problem? Definitely, maybe. From Cholesterol And Coronary Heart Disease , "Cholesterol-depleted particles oxidise faster than large, cholesterol-rich ones." Chylomicrons, chylomicron remnants & VLDL-C are triglyceride-rich, cholesterol-poor, as that's the composition of the fat in the diet.

The ugly:

Here's evidence that excessive postprandial TG's significantly raise the relative risk (RR) for CHD:- See Fig. 1 in Fasting Compared With Nonfasting Triglycerides and Risk of Cardiovascular Events in Women.

Here's more evidence that postprandial saturated fatty TG's raise the RR for CHD:- See Postprandial triglyceride-rich lipoproteins promote invasion of human coronary artery smooth muscle cells in a fatty-acid manner through PI3k-Rac1-JNK signaling.

See also Postprandial triglyceride-rich lipoprotein changes in elderly and young subjects.,
Effect of a single high-fat meal on endothelial function in healthy subjects.,
Postprandial lipemia: emerging evidence for atherogenicity of remnant lipoproteins.,
Alimentary lipemia, postprandial triglyceride-rich lipoproteins, and common carotid intima-media thickness in healthy, middle-aged men.,
Evidence for a cholesteryl ester donor activity of LDL particles during alimentary lipemia in normolipidemic subjects.,
Association of postprandial hypertriglyceridemia and carotid intima-media thickness in patients with type 2 diabetes.,
Postprandial hypertriglyceridemia impairs endothelial function by enhanced oxidant stress.,
High-energy diets, fatty acids and endothelial cell function: implications for atherosclerosis.,
Impact of postprandial hypertriglyceridemia on vascular responses in patients with coronary artery disease: effects of ACE inhibitors and fibrates.,
[Influence of postprandial hypertriglyceridemia on the endothelial function in elderly patients with coronary heart disease].,
Impact of postprandial variation in triglyceridemia on low-density lipoprotein particle size.,
Association between fasting and postprandial triglyceride levels and carotid intima-media thickness in type 2 diabetes patients.,
[Correlation of lipemia level after fat loading with manifestation of atherosclerosis in coronary arteries].,
Postprandial hypertriglyceridemia and carotid intima-media thickness in north Indian type 2 diabetic subjects.,
Association between postprandial remnant-like particle triglyceride (RLP-TG) levels and carotid intima-media thickness (IMT) in Japanese patients with type 2 diabetes: assessment by meal tolerance tests (MTT).,
Postprandial lipemia and remnant lipoproteins., 
Elevated levels of platelet microparticles in carotid atherosclerosis and during the postprandial state.,
Postprandial metabolic and hormonal responses of obese dyslipidemic subjects with metabolic syndrome to test meals, rich in carbohydrate, fat or protein.,
Atherosclerosis, diabetes and lipoproteins., 
Clinical relevance of non-fasting and postprandial hypertriglyceridemia and remnant cholesterol.,
Post-prandial hypertriglyceridemia in patients with type 2 diabetes mellitus with and without macrovascular disease.,
A hypertriglyceridemic state increases high sensitivity C-reactive protein of Japanese men with normal glucose tolerance.,
CD36 inhibitors reduce postprandial hypertriglyceridemia and protect against diabetic dyslipidemia and atherosclerosis., 
[Trends of evaluation of hypertriglyceridemia -from fasting to postprandial hypertriglyceridemia-].,
The effects of dietary fatty acids on the postprandial triglyceride-rich lipoprotein/apoB48 receptor axis in human monocyte/macrophage cells.

See also What Is the Significance of Postprandial Triglycerides Compared With Fasting Triglycerides? , Uncovering a Hidden Source of Cardiovascular Disease Risk and Postprandial Lipoproteins: The storm after the quiet!

A counter-argument is that the subjects in the above studies were eating carbohydrate, and that postprandial TG's aren't atherogenic if you're not eating much carbohydrate. Definitely, maybe. In the absence of carbohydrate, there is still glucose in the blood, thanks to the liver. Also, some carbohydrates don't spike blood glucose (or fructose) level. It's pure speculation that the subjects in the above studies had high blood glucose at the same time as high postprandial TG's. As Insulin Resistance/Metabolic Syndrome and/or a high-sugar diet raise fasting TG's, and there was no significant association between fasting TG's and the risk factor for CHD, this suggests that the subjects had no significant metabolic derangement and were not eating excessive amounts of sugar.

According to Very Low-Carbohydrate and Low-Fat Diets Affect Fasting Lipids and Postprandial Lipemia Differently in Overweight Men, there's a ~50% reduction in postprandial TG's after adaptation to a very-low-carb, very-high-fat diet. However, mean energy intake was only 1,850kcals/day. The subjects were in a 500kcal/day energy deficit and the %E from fat was only 60%.

Also, some people's LDL levels go extremely high on a very-low-carb, very-high-fat diet. See Lipidaholics Anonymous Case 291 Can losing weight worsen lipids? A very high LDL level results in a high LDL particle count, even if the particles are large (Type A). A high LDL particle count is a strong risk factor for CHD. See also Fig. 1 in Some Metabolic Changes Induced by Low Carbohydrate Diets.

It's possible to get Coronary Artery Calcium (CAC) scans, to measure the amount of calcified plaque in coronary arteries. While a high CAC value means lots of plaque, a zero CAC value doesn't necessarily mean zero plaque, as young people and people with a high Vitamin K2 intake don't have significant calcification. See Stenosis Can Still Exist in Absence of Coronary Calcium.

Update 26th July 2014: See Page 10 of  HIGH CARBOHYDRATE DIETS: MALIGNED AND MISUNDERSTOOD - Nathan Pritikin. Read the text, starting with:-
"Could such a cream meal precipitate an angina attack because the oxygen-carrying capacity of the blood is lowered?"
The answer appears to be "Yes."